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Surrogacy
Surrogacy is often thought to be a ‘treatment’ option for the infertile or an alternative to adoption, and so to be celebrated in fulfilling people’s desires to be parents. However, surrogacy also brings a wealth of more complex issues. But why in the 21st century, many people are still hostile to surrogacy. Even at present, many couples cannot tell their close relatives that their surrogate is pregnant. Because they are afraid of condemnation, misunderstanding by the them. Why it happens? What do you think about it?
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Hi, unfortunately, many people do not delve into this issue. Usually, people who do not suffer from infertility and do not have serious diseases that can prevent them from having a baby do not think about it. This is understandable, but everyone must take into account the rights and desires of others. Some people condemn surrogacy, not thinking that for someone this is the only chance to become parents. Do not blame the choice of other people, not knowing the reasons. Unfortunately surrogacy is prohibited in many countries. Therefore, many childless couples have to go abroad.
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Hi girls! Glad to see you on this forum! I also believe that many people are biased towards surrogacy due to insufficient knowledge. Some people still believe that the surrogate mother is the biological mother of the child. But this practice is prohibited almost everywhere. If the eggs of the biological mother for some reason are not suitable, donor eggs are used. Also, there is an opinion that surrogacy is available only to rich people. This alone is not true, of course, if we are not talking about America.
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Hi girls, thanks for your answers! I'm glad that you responded to my post. Unfortunately, most people really do not know anything about surrogacy. They stand their fantasies and speculations based on myths and false information. But as you know, today many religions do not support this process. Therefore, it is sometimes very difficult for religious people to make a decision. Sometimes they choose adoption over surrogacy. By the way, I agree with you, many people mistakenly believe that surrogacy is available exclusively to wealthy citizens. But today, in addition to America, several more countries offer surrogacy at lower prices.
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Surrogacy is legal in some USA, but not all of them. In most of these states, there is no surrogacy law. The child’s parentage is recognised by a judge during the surrogate mother’s pregnancy. Usually during the sixth month. The judge bases their decision on the agreement of the parties and the precedents set by the US Courts. For this reason, it is essential to carefully choose the state where the surrogacy process will be carried out. But in the USA there are really high prices, the cost of the program can exceed $ 140,000. I think that you will agree with me, this is a rather large amount, taking into account the fact that there is no 100% guarantee. But there are countries where surrogacy is prohibited at all.
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Yes, there are countries that completely outlaw all kinds of surrogacy. Or make surrogacy impossible to complete by making contracts unenforceable. While it’s likely that surrogacy still occurs in private deals, it’s highly recommended that you do not pursue a surrogacy in these countries, due to the possible legal repercussions involved. By the way, surrogacy is also allowed in Russia and Ukraine. And until recently, it was available in India and Thailand. But the authorities of Thailand and India have banned surrogacy for foreign couples. Have you heard about this?
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Yes, of course, I heard about it. This news shocked many people. No one expected India to ban surrogacy. However, I support this step, because in India the quality of the services provided was low. It did not match their value. Therefore, many foreign couples were disappointed after a trip to India. By the way, we never considered this option as possible.
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Yes, i also know, that the Surrogacy Bill bans all foreign applicants, bringing to an end a period during which India became the world’s “fertility tourism” hotspot. The new law’s supporters say it will also protect vulnerable women from being exploited by unscrupulous agents for wealthy Indian clients seeking to jump adoption queues. Now, surrogate mothers must be a “close relative” and recipients must be infertile couples who have been married at least five years. The law only allow “altruistic surrogacy”. As now surrogates will be stopped from accepting money, other than payment of medical bills. However opponents say prohibition of commercial surrogacy could push the business underground. And that the definition of “close relative” is problematic. Given the social relations in some Indian societies, there is also a worry that due to power dynamics some females could be coerced into such situations. The bill bans any form of surrogacy for gay people, single parents and unmarried couples, prompting some to call it archaic.
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Yes, you correctly noticed. Thailand’s parliament also has passed legislation banning commercial surrogacy. And putting a halt on foreign couples seeking to have children through Thai surrogate mothers. The new law bans all foreign and same-sex couples from seeking surrogacy services in the country. Only married heterosexuals with at least one Thai partner are allowed to use surrogates. There are no fees allowed for the service and the surrogate mothers must be Thai and over 25 years old. The surrogate mothers are also required to be relatives of either the husband or wife. The legislation also includes a ban on advertising and promotions and shuts down surrogate agents and unregistered clinics.
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Yes, girls, Thailand and India are closed to foreign couples. Although these areas have long been extremely attractive a few years ago. First of all, due to the low cost of services and the lack of a large number of requirements. In my opinion, now the most affordable option is Ukraine. Unlike Russia, there are more affordable prices. What do you think about it? Do you support my opinion?
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Of course, Ukraine is one of the countries where surrogacy is regulated in detail in national law. In Ukraine, married heterosexual couples with fertility problems can carry out the process, provided that they contribute genetic material. At least one members of the couple. Normally, the male contributes the genetic material while the female proves the impossibility of or serious health risks associated with pregnancy by way of a medical certificate. For example, we immediately decided that we would contact a Ukrainian clinic. We have chosen Biotexcom and are very happy now. We were pleased that they have three packages with different prices.
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Clearly, the international laws regarding surrogacy are variable and complicated. If you’re looking to complete a surrogacy, the safest and friendliest place to do so is within the Ukraine. Many international couples come to the Ukraine for surrogacy because of the state regulations that permit commercial surrogacy and protect both parties of the agreement fully. Regardless of where you end up completing your surrogacy, make sure that you completely understand the surrogacy laws in that country and how you can protect your interests as a prospective surrogate or intended parent. Many countries do not allow for compensated surrogacy, which means intended parents must already have a close friend or family member in that country who is willing to complete an altruistic surrogacy. In other countries, surrogacy may be banned entirely for non-citizens — making it impossible for an international intended parent to pursue a surrogacy there. If intended parents have the choice between a surrogacy-friendly country and one that restricts surrogacy, it would be best to choose the former. Choosing a surrogacy-restricted country may result in legal difficulties for intended parents trying to bring their baby back to their native country.
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We congratulate you! I am sure that you have made the right choice. There are really a lot of positive reviews about this clinic. I know that they came to London last year. However, I could not get to meet them. Unfortunately, I found out about this very late. Why do you think there is so much false information about surrogacy on the Internet?
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Oh, unfortunately about surrogacy, there really are a lot of myths. I don’t even suspect who invents them. In fact, many people believe in them and it is very sad. However, there is a myth that was previously true. Many people think that the surrogate is the biological mother of the unborn child. There are two types of surrogacy. Gestational surrogacy, wherein an embryo created outside of the body is placed in an unrelated woman’s womb to grow, and traditional surrogacy, wherein the surrogate also acts as the egg donor. In the case of traditional surrogacy, a surrogate would also be the biological mother of the child. This method is far less common than gestational surrogacy. Most surrogacy clinics will not work with traditional surrogates. In the case of gestational surrogacy, the surrogate is just a carrier–the fetus she carries will have no maternal relationship with her.
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Oh, there is still an opinion that surrogates are poor women. In the case of India, this is possible. However, most surrogates enter the program not only for the sake of money, but also out of a desire to help infertile couples. Some surrogates after giving birth to infertile couples enter the program again and again. Therefore, in most cases, this information has no reason. However, I am sure that a surrogate mother should receive money for her work. After all, they commit a noble deed.
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Yes, I agre with you, while being a surrogate is ideal for women who underwent easy pregnancies and deliveries, the process takes time and dedication. The month before an embryo transfer, a potential carrier must take hormonal medications. Many times, via an injection series. She must also visit the fertility clinic on a regular basis to make sure she is responding to the medications. These appointments can be for bloodwork or even an ultrasound. An embryo transfer is a minimally invasive procedure. But still, it’s a procedure a woman wanting to become a surrogate must undergo. Being a surrogate is much different than carrying for one’s own children. The intending parents may have special requests that a gestational carrier is asked to follow in her contract. A surrogate dedicates at least a year to helping others achieve their dream of parenthood. This also includes the time it takes to finalize legal contracts.

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